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Forum - News / Announcements » Win-Raid Forum future announcement
Win-Raid Forum future announcement
plutomaniac #1 Administrator | Sun Nov 14, 2021 4:04 pm (Last edited: Fri Dec 24, 2021 5:52 pm)
Hi everyone,
I'm starting this thread to announce our plan to close the forum at the end of the year.
Although this is sad news for Win-Raid as a community, the truth is that the current administration team is not able to continue supporting and maintaining it.
This is mainly due to changing life and/or work responsibilities, which means that we don't have the time or energy to deal with the forum like in the years past.
Besides that, it appears that the amazing community Dieter started in 2013 is not the same today.
The goal of this forum was always to target more advanced users, with a passion for technology, who want to understand, optimize & improve their systems, as explained at the Welcome page.
That means doing research into new things and writing guides for people to follow and learn.
Both of these things require a lot of time and knowledgeable people who are able and willing to devote that time and energy.
Unfortunately, most of these people have now moved on to other great things, and it seems that most active and/or new threads nowadays are usually centered around "requests".
Moreover, as a general internet trend, it appears that the style of the "classic" forum is dying.
More and more communities transition to social media style interactions or threads through those mediums.
:::
All of these do not align with the spirit of the forum, as originally set, and is thus our decision to close the forum instead of letting it become something it was never supposed to be: content-poor, ad-filled and unmaintained.
Thank you very much for having joined and supported this forum for the last 8 wonderful years! If you have any comments, thoughts or suggestions, please feel free to share them publicly in this thread for everyone to see.
Win7Ashtrix #7 Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:15 pm
Hello to entire Win-Raid community. It's really a heartbreaking news.
I discovered this absolute invaluable knowledge sharing passionate website very recently and barely even started learning things.
And I cannot explain how much I gained knowledge and tried to give it back everywhere possible including helping myself and also post again here, and still there's so much left to discover.
I cannot even comprehend the Internet without this website and the people, my mind cannot process this gut wrenching news, not even sure what I'm going to do.
Also the Discord really knocked the old school forum aspects, it serves as a mere bloated place and the information is drowned without possibility to recover it.
Add the Telegram, these things even killed XDA forum for the Android modifications, that place used to be so good, now they changed their priorities and became a social media tech blog post site and debilitated the core passionate foundation.
:::
plutomaniac Administrator #16 Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:39 pm
Zitat von Dogg im Beitrag #13
Regarding the shift towards "requests", maybe make a no-request-rule? Guides and tools are all here on the forum, people should be able to get it done by themselves after reading and understanding what they are doing.
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We had tried that in the past, didn't work.
Unfortunately, various people break the rules, which means even more work from the maintainers to try and fish out these things, delete, merge, warn, ban etc.
Also, some people find it "offensive" to tell them that they need to follow a guide and not expect things on a silver platter.
build4fun #18 Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:49 am
I just want to add my thoughts to this.
Firstly, I want to thank Dieter, plutomaniac, westlake, Marvin and all the contributors to this forum (too many to mention all by name).
Your work and leadership has been excellent. It is hugely valued and respected! Thank you!
Secondly, this forum and it's content cannot be allowed to die, it must be allowed to continue and evolve as before perhaps with new members/contributors on another similar platform etc.
A few comments on forums and social media.
Social media is not a replacement for a board like win-raid it is too unstructured and opinionated.
There is and will continue to still be a huge need for competent fact and knowledge based forum style platform covering what Win-raid does.
Right now there is no alternative that can take over what win-raid does.
plutomaniac Administrator #26 Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:55 pm
I agree, but honestly the fact that traditional forums are fading away is just a smaller reason, not the main one.
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It's not just about people not being overly tech-savvy. Maybe that's ok. But when someone has spent, let's say, 100 hours of their lives over the years to write and maintain a guide, I find it disrespectful, at the very least, to not spend 100 seconds reading it and then following it.
Romanetto Italy #30 Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:23 pm
I am disarmed after this news. I am very sorry that an important point of reference is closed and that all the history that has been made in these pages is lost.
Communication via social media is a communication without memory and not very constructive, the forum is the only way to keep the news over time. Do you plan to keep the site's history?
I take this opportunity to thank those who helped me a few years ago in solving an update bug of the cpu microcodes.
Daniele
Consiglio comunque di leggere tutta la discussione, è di un levello davvero elevato.
Saluti
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Forum - News / Announcements » Win-Raid Forum future announcement
Win-Raid Forum future announcement
plutomaniac #1 Administrator | Sun Nov 14, 2021 4:04 pm (Last edited: Fri Dec 24, 2021 5:52 pm)
Hi everyone,
I'm starting this thread to announce our plan to close the forum at the end of the year.
Although this is sad news for Win-Raid as a community, the truth is that the current administration team is not able to continue supporting and maintaining it.
This is mainly due to changing life and/or work responsibilities, which means that we don't have the time or energy to deal with the forum like in the years past.
Besides that, it appears that the amazing community Dieter started in 2013 is not the same today.
The goal of this forum was always to target more advanced users, with a passion for technology, who want to understand, optimize & improve their systems, as explained at the Welcome page.
That means doing research into new things and writing guides for people to follow and learn.
Both of these things require a lot of time and knowledgeable people who are able and willing to devote that time and energy.
Unfortunately, most of these people have now moved on to other great things, and it seems that most active and/or new threads nowadays are usually centered around "requests".
Moreover, as a general internet trend, it appears that the style of the "classic" forum is dying.
More and more communities transition to social media style interactions or threads through those mediums.
:::
All of these do not align with the spirit of the forum, as originally set, and is thus our decision to close the forum instead of letting it become something it was never supposed to be: content-poor, ad-filled and unmaintained.
Thank you very much for having joined and supported this forum for the last 8 wonderful years! If you have any comments, thoughts or suggestions, please feel free to share them publicly in this thread for everyone to see.
Win7Ashtrix #7 Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:15 pm
Hello to entire Win-Raid community. It's really a heartbreaking news.
I discovered this absolute invaluable knowledge sharing passionate website very recently and barely even started learning things.
And I cannot explain how much I gained knowledge and tried to give it back everywhere possible including helping myself and also post again here, and still there's so much left to discover.
I cannot even comprehend the Internet without this website and the people, my mind cannot process this gut wrenching news, not even sure what I'm going to do.
Also the Discord really knocked the old school forum aspects, it serves as a mere bloated place and the information is drowned without possibility to recover it.
Add the Telegram, these things even killed XDA forum for the Android modifications, that place used to be so good, now they changed their priorities and became a social media tech blog post site and debilitated the core passionate foundation.
:::
plutomaniac Administrator #16 Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:39 pm
Zitat von Dogg im Beitrag #13
Regarding the shift towards "requests", maybe make a no-request-rule? Guides and tools are all here on the forum, people should be able to get it done by themselves after reading and understanding what they are doing.
-----------------
We had tried that in the past, didn't work.
Unfortunately, various people break the rules, which means even more work from the maintainers to try and fish out these things, delete, merge, warn, ban etc.
Also, some people find it "offensive" to tell them that they need to follow a guide and not expect things on a silver platter.
build4fun #18 Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:49 am
I just want to add my thoughts to this.
Firstly, I want to thank Dieter, plutomaniac, westlake, Marvin and all the contributors to this forum (too many to mention all by name).
Your work and leadership has been excellent. It is hugely valued and respected! Thank you!
Secondly, this forum and it's content cannot be allowed to die, it must be allowed to continue and evolve as before perhaps with new members/contributors on another similar platform etc.
A few comments on forums and social media.
Social media is not a replacement for a board like win-raid it is too unstructured and opinionated.
There is and will continue to still be a huge need for competent fact and knowledge based forum style platform covering what Win-raid does.
Right now there is no alternative that can take over what win-raid does.
plutomaniac Administrator #26 Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:55 pm
I agree, but honestly the fact that traditional forums are fading away is just a smaller reason, not the main one.
::::
It's not just about people not being overly tech-savvy. Maybe that's ok. But when someone has spent, let's say, 100 hours of their lives over the years to write and maintain a guide, I find it disrespectful, at the very least, to not spend 100 seconds reading it and then following it.
Romanetto Italy #30 Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:23 pm
I am disarmed after this news. I am very sorry that an important point of reference is closed and that all the history that has been made in these pages is lost.
Communication via social media is a communication without memory and not very constructive, the forum is the only way to keep the news over time. Do you plan to keep the site's history?
I take this opportunity to thank those who helped me a few years ago in solving an update bug of the cpu microcodes.
Daniele