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Vecchio 28-10-08, 08:36   #1
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I pasti gratis

Ieri il caso VW dovrebbe aver messo in guardia chi pensava che ci fossero solo pasti gratis perchè tanto lo S&P deve andare a 600 nei prossimi giorni.

Di sicuro per gli shorter ci sarà tanto da mangiare gratis anche in futuro. Ma è giusto che qualcuno cominci a mettere in conto la possibilità di pagare ...... con tutti i soldi che hanno fatto sino ad ora mi pare il minimo

By Tomoko Yamazaki and Komaki Ito
Oct. 28 (Bloomberg) -- Japan brought forward restrictions on
short selling of shares after stocks in Tokyo extended declines
to the lowest levels since October 1982.
Finance Minister Shoichi Nakagawa said a temporary ban on
so-called naked short sales would take effect today. The
temporary ban was previously scheduled to start on Nov. 4.
The Nikkei 225 Stock Average has lost more than 18 percent
over the past five trading days, led by banks including Mizuho
Financial Group Inc., Asia's biggest victim of the global credit
crisis. The government joins the U.S. and Britain in restricting
short selling as the Tokyo market's plunge to a 26-year low puts
pressure on the balance sheets of Japan's biggest firms, which
traditionally have large stock holdings in one another.
``We've discussed with the Prime Minister that the next
couple days will be crucial for the Japanese market and unless we
implement these rules immediately in this crisis, we may face
serious problems,'' Nakagawa, who is also minister in charge of
regulating the financial sector, said at a press conference in
Tokyo. ``We need to have rules that match the level of those in
the U.S. and Europe.''
Short sellers borrow shares and sell them, betting the price
will fall and they'll be able to buy them later, return them to
the lender and pocket the difference in price. In naked short
selling, traders never borrow the shares, raising concern that
the markets will be flooded with sell orders to drive down prices.

Uptick Rule

According to a statement on the Financial Services Agency's
Web site yesterday, Japan will also require investors with short-
sale positions of more than 0.25 percent of the outstanding
shares of a stock to report their position to brokerage firms.
``It's too early yet to see the full implications as market
participants will need to get clarification on the actual
procedures involved in reporting short positions of 0.25 percent of
outstanding shares,'' said Rory Kennedy, chief operating officer of
Tokyo-based United Managers Japan Inc., a hedge fund adviser.
``Shorting is an important factor in setting a market price in
developed markets and to ban shorting outright in order to try and
prop up the market is self defeating in the medium term.''
The Financial Services Agency required exchanges disclose
more information on short selling on Oct. 14. During a previous
slump in the stock market in 2002, the FSA introduced a so-called
uptick rule to discourage short selling. The rule allows
investors to complete sales only if a stock's price rises in the
previous trade.

`Crisis Mode'

The Nikkei 225 Stock Average dropped as much as 2.4 percent
today before ending up 6.4 percent at 7,261.92 at the 3 p.m.
close in Tokyo. The 84 company Topix bank's index lost 2 percent,
extending its decline during the past month to 40 percent,
compared with 30 percent for the broader Topix index.
``We realize that the global market is in a crisis mode and
we realize the need for such measures now,'' Atsushi Saito,
president of the Tokyo Stock Exchange, said at a press conference
in Tokyo. ``Still, for the long term, the exchange's role is not
to implement restrictions but to secure liquidity.''
Economic and Fiscal Policy Minister Kaoru Yosano said on Oct.
26 the government may increase to 10 trillion yen ($107 billion)
the amount of public funds that can be injected into banks, from
an earlier plan of 2 trillion yen. Bank of Japan Deputy Governor
Hirohide Yamaguchi said yesterday the bank is considering buying
shares in Japanese companies owned by commercial banks.

`Selling Attacks'

``We believe that short sellers add needed liquidity to
financial markets and that government concerns over `short-
selling attacks' can be met with the robust application of an
`uptick' rule,'' said Ed Rogers, chief executive officer at
Tokyo-based hedge-fund adviser Rogers Investment Advisors Y.K.
``Governments across the world are going to have a very difficult
time in attempting to create an artificial bottom for equity
market prices.''
Profit is set to decline at Japanese banks after debt from
bankruptcies almost tripled in the first half and the global
credit crisis pushed the nation toward a recession.
The falling value of shares the lenders and other Japanese
companies hold as part of their capital has prompted corporate
leaders including Shinsei Bank Ltd.'s chairman, Masamoto Yashiro,
to call for an emergency suspension of mark-to-market accounting
rules. Shinsei is forecasting an 80 percent drop in annual profit
as asset values slump.
The global credit crisis has caused more than $677 billion
of writedowns and losses at the world's biggest banks and
financial firms. Tokyo-based Mizuho is the biggest loser in Asia,
reporting about $7 billion of subprime-related losses last year.
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Vecchio 28-10-08, 08:38   #2
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sempre in giro per il mondo

fermati un pò sotto l'albero


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Vecchio 28-10-08, 08:39   #3
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Ieri il caso VW dovrebbe aver messo in guardia chi pensava che ci fossero solo pasti gratis perchè tanto lo S&P deve andare a 600 nei prossimi giorni.

Di sicuro per gli shorter ci sarà tanto da mangiare gratis anche in futuro. Ma è giusto che qualcuno cominci a mettere in conto la possibilità di pagare ...... con tutti i soldi che hanno fatto sino ad ora mi pare il minimo

By Tomoko Yamazaki and Komaki Ito
Oct. 28 (Bloomberg) -- Japan brought forward restrictions on
short selling of shares after stocks in Tokyo extended declines
to the lowest levels since October 1982.
Finance Minister Shoichi Nakagawa said a temporary ban on
so-called naked short sales would take effect today. The
temporary ban was previously scheduled to start on Nov. 4.
The Nikkei 225 Stock Average has lost more than 18 percent
over the past five trading days, led by banks including Mizuho
Financial Group Inc., Asia's biggest victim of the global credit
crisis. The government joins the U.S. and Britain in restricting
short selling as the Tokyo market's plunge to a 26-year low puts
pressure on the balance sheets of Japan's biggest firms, which
traditionally have large stock holdings in one another.
``We've discussed with the Prime Minister that the next
couple days will be crucial for the Japanese market and unless we
implement these rules immediately in this crisis, we may face
serious problems,'' Nakagawa, who is also minister in charge of
regulating the financial sector, said at a press conference in
Tokyo. ``We need to have rules that match the level of those in
the U.S. and Europe.''
Short sellers borrow shares and sell them, betting the price
will fall and they'll be able to buy them later, return them to
the lender and pocket the difference in price. In naked short
selling, traders never borrow the shares, raising concern that
the markets will be flooded with sell orders to drive down prices.

Uptick Rule

According to a statement on the Financial Services Agency's
Web site yesterday, Japan will also require investors with short-
sale positions of more than 0.25 percent of the outstanding
shares of a stock to report their position to brokerage firms.
``It's too early yet to see the full implications as market
participants will need to get clarification on the actual
procedures involved in reporting short positions of 0.25 percent of
outstanding shares,'' said Rory Kennedy, chief operating officer of
Tokyo-based United Managers Japan Inc., a hedge fund adviser.
``Shorting is an important factor in setting a market price in
developed markets and to ban shorting outright in order to try and
prop up the market is self defeating in the medium term.''
The Financial Services Agency required exchanges disclose
more information on short selling on Oct. 14. During a previous
slump in the stock market in 2002, the FSA introduced a so-called
uptick rule to discourage short selling. The rule allows
investors to complete sales only if a stock's price rises in the
previous trade.

`Crisis Mode'

The Nikkei 225 Stock Average dropped as much as 2.4 percent
today before ending up 6.4 percent at 7,261.92 at the 3 p.m.
close in Tokyo. The 84 company Topix bank's index lost 2 percent,
extending its decline during the past month to 40 percent,
compared with 30 percent for the broader Topix index.
``We realize that the global market is in a crisis mode and
we realize the need for such measures now,'' Atsushi Saito,
president of the Tokyo Stock Exchange, said at a press conference
in Tokyo. ``Still, for the long term, the exchange's role is not
to implement restrictions but to secure liquidity.''
Economic and Fiscal Policy Minister Kaoru Yosano said on Oct.
26 the government may increase to 10 trillion yen ($107 billion)
the amount of public funds that can be injected into banks, from
an earlier plan of 2 trillion yen. Bank of Japan Deputy Governor
Hirohide Yamaguchi said yesterday the bank is considering buying
shares in Japanese companies owned by commercial banks.

`Selling Attacks'

``We believe that short sellers add needed liquidity to
financial markets and that government concerns over `short-
selling attacks' can be met with the robust application of an
`uptick' rule,'' said Ed Rogers, chief executive officer at
Tokyo-based hedge-fund adviser Rogers Investment Advisors Y.K.
``Governments across the world are going to have a very difficult
time in attempting to create an artificial bottom for equity
market prices.''
Profit is set to decline at Japanese banks after debt from
bankruptcies almost tripled in the first half and the global
credit crisis pushed the nation toward a recession.
The falling value of shares the lenders and other Japanese
companies hold as part of their capital has prompted corporate
leaders including Shinsei Bank Ltd.'s chairman, Masamoto Yashiro,
to call for an emergency suspension of mark-to-market accounting
rules. Shinsei is forecasting an 80 percent drop in annual profit
as asset values slump.
The global credit crisis has caused more than $677 billion
of writedowns and losses at the world's biggest banks and
financial firms. Tokyo-based Mizuho is the biggest loser in Asia,
reporting about $7 billion of subprime-related losses last year.
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Vecchio 28-10-08, 08:39   #4
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Sfatato il mito della "saggezza orientale".
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Vecchio 28-10-08, 08:41   #5
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Sfatato il mito della "saggezza orientale".
a furia di sentirti dire che ce l'hai piccolo ... prima o poi ti incazzi
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a furia di sentirti dire che ce l'hai piccolo ... Prima o poi ti incazzi

ce l'hai piccolo
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cosa?..................
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Vecchio 28-10-08, 09:05   #8
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ce l'hai piccolo
non ce l'ho piccolo neanche a ripiegarlo in 4
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Vecchio 28-10-08, 09:07   #9
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Hk crazy bids in the auction rumor to ban short sellin .
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Vecchio 28-10-08, 09:15   #10
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non ce l'ho piccolo neanche a ripiegarlo in 4
come fai a piegare una "cosa" che non riesci ad afferrare?
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