è fallita la prima banca

[stockuccio]

http://www.fdic.gov/news/news/press/2008/pr08007.html

preso da http://icebergfinanza.splinder.com/ ... interessantissimo sito, almeno per me
S8audi, se ci sei, che ne dici ?

Roubini a Davos ...

"The debate today is not any longer on whether we will experience a soft landing or a hard landing in the US; it is rather on how hard the hard landing will be. In other terms on whether the current recession will be relatively mild - say lasting two quarters until the middle of 2008 - or rather be much longer, deeper and uglier and lasting at least four quarters. My view is that the recession will be protracted and painful as a shopped-out, saving-less and debt-burdened consumer is on the ropes and now faltering; while the financial system is on the verge of a systemic crisis that will cause a severe credit crunch...

Indeed the delinquencies and losses in the financial system are spreading from subprime to near prime and prime mortgages; to credit cards and auto loans; to commercial real estate loans; to leveraged loans that financed reckless LBOs; to the losses of the monolines that are effectively bankrupt and at risk of spreading furher massive losses to money market funds and other financial institutions once they get properly downgraded; and soon enough to corporate defaults and junk bonds that will in turn trigger massive losses on credit default swaps; eventual losses in the financial system may add up to more than $1 trillion...

As for decoupling there is no way that the rest of the world can decouple from a US recession. When the US sneezes the rest of the world catches the cold; and unfortunately this time the US will not experience just a case of a mild common cold; it will rather suffer of a painful and protracted episode of pneumonia; thus the real and financial contagion to the rest of the world will be serious...

The Fed will ease aggressively but whatever it does now is too little to late; this easing will not prevent a recession as monetary policy can deal with illiquidity problems but it cannot resolve the deep credit and insolvency issues that plague the US economy; also when there is a glut of capital goods - in 2001 tech capital goods, today a glut of housing, consumer durables and autos the demand for these goods becomes relatively interest rate inelastic; it takes years to clean up this glut and monetary easing does not work as it is like pushing on a string...

U.S. and global equity markets will enter a serious bearish market as a US recession and sharpl global economic slowdown take a toll on investors' risk aversion and firms' earnings and profitability...all risky assets will be under serious pressure in 2008".

[i98mark]

Originalmente inviato da stockuccio

http://www.fdic.gov/news/news/press/2008/pr08007.html

preso da http://icebergfinanza.splinder.com/ ... interessantissimo sito, almeno per me
S8audi, se ci sei, che ne dici ?

Roubini a Davos ...

"The debate today is not any longer on whether we will experience a soft landing or a hard landing in the US; it is rather on how hard the hard landing will be. In other terms on whether the current recession will be relatively mild - say lasting two quarters until the middle of 2008 - or rather be much longer, deeper and uglier and lasting at least four quarters. My view is that the recession will be protracted and painful as a shopped-out, saving-less and debt-burdened consumer is on the ropes and now faltering; while the financial system is on the verge of a systemic crisis that will cause a severe credit crunch...

Indeed the delinquencies and losses in the financial system are spreading from subprime to near prime and prime mortgages; to credit cards and auto loans; to commercial real estate loans; to leveraged loans that financed reckless LBOs; to the losses of the monolines that are effectively bankrupt and at risk of spreading furher massive losses to money market funds and other financial institutions once they get properly downgraded; and soon enough to corporate defaults and junk bonds that will in turn trigger massive losses on credit default swaps; eventual losses in the financial system may add up to more than $1 trillion...

As for decoupling there is no way that the rest of the world can decouple from a US recession. When the US sneezes the rest of the world catches the cold; and unfortunately this time the US will not experience just a case of a mild common cold; it will rather suffer of a painful and protracted episode of pneumonia; thus the real and financial contagion to the rest of the world will be serious...

The Fed will ease aggressively but whatever it does now is too little to late; this easing will not prevent a recession as monetary policy can deal with illiquidity problems but it cannot resolve the deep credit and insolvency issues that plague the US economy; also when there is a glut of capital goods - in 2001 tech capital goods, today a glut of housing, consumer durables and autos the demand for these goods becomes relatively interest rate inelastic; it takes years to clean up this glut and monetary easing does not work as it is like pushing on a string...

U.S. and global equity markets will enter a serious bearish market as a US recession and sharpl global economic slowdown take a toll on investors' risk aversion and firms' earnings and profitability...all risky assets will be under serious pressure in 2008".

Però... aveva ben 3 sportelli, 2 in più di Eurocredinord...

[pmpm]

Mmaaaaark, sei ......SEMPLICEMENTE...........MITICO!


In una giornata per me dura, mi hai fatto fare una risata di cuore

Scusa Stokkuccio, non me ne volere!

[cricket72]

Originalmente inviato da pmpm

Mmaaaaark, sei ......SEMPLICEMENTE...........MITICO!

non è che mark abbia fatto grandi sforzi

ha solo contato 3 sportelli

[s8audi]

qualcuno ha perso soldi?
ma stiamo qui a guardare una banchetta da 50milioni di $?

[s8audi]

cioe'...non so se vi rendete conto di quanti sono 50milioni di dollari...
uno sputo
le 5 palazzine che vedo dalla mia finestra di casa, calcolando circa 100 appartamenti in tutto da circa 300-350mila euro l'uno, valgono di piu' di quella "banca"

[stockuccio]

non ha avuto il tempo di diventare un colosso ... in genere si comincia dal piccolo
e poi, mi piace il panico ...

[i98mark]

Originalmente inviato da pmpm

Mmaaaaark, sei ......SEMPLICEMENTE...........MITICO!


In una giornata per me dura, mi hai fatto fare una risata di cuore

Scusa Stokkuccio, non me ne volere!

Originalmente inviato da cricket72

non è che mark abbia fatto grandi sforzi

ha solo contato 3 sportelli

Due in più di Eurocredinord, ma uno in meno della mia auto...

[s8audi]

Originalmente inviato da stockuccio

non ha avuto il tempo di diventare un colosso ... in genere si comincia dal piccolo

dai...mettiti l'anima in pace
se vogliono far fallire un po' di banche, e' solo per ricomprarsele a 2 soldi
se invece ungiorno ne fallira' una grossa facendo collassare tutto il sistema, salta tutto
non ti puoi difendere
quindi dormi tranquillo
non stare a preoccuparti di una cosa che
1) non sai se mai accadra'
2) anche se sei certo che accadra' , non ti puoi difendere
magari tra un anno saremo in guerra, che ti frega dei soldi o di una delle tante banchette che , in giro per il mondo , ogni tanto chiudono?

[i98mark]

Originalmente inviato da stockuccio

non ha avuto il tempo di diventare un colosso ... in genere si comincia dal piccolo


e poi, mi piace il panico ...

Non ci crederai mai, ma avevo avuto sentore di questi tuoi gusti...