La Cina è un problema?Non per tutti:la Germania esporta molto

[Birbun]

Euro forte o Euro debole,la Germania in Cina vende i suoi prodotti a prezzi tedeschi e i cinesi comprano.
Chiaro che i tedeschi non esportano in Cina scarpe,pentole o piciottate varie,ma prodotti di altissima tecnologia che i cinesi comprano a caro prezzo.
Anche gli americani,invece in gran deficit commerciale con la Cina, si sono sorpresi della potenza dell'export tedesco.



German Export ‘Juice’ Should Guide U.S. in China, Companies Say
By Bloomberg News


May 20 (Bloomberg) -- German and U.S. trade delegations crisscrossed Shanghai yesterday, competing to persuade customers in the world’s fastest-growing major economy to buy more imported cars, airplanes and solar panels.

Germany was winning even before its president, Horst Koehler, and U.S. Commerce Secretary Gary Locke landed in China’s commercial capital this week for dueling trade missions.

China’s demand for Siemens AG trains, Daimler AG sedans and BASF SE chemicals means that its two-way trade with China -- 82.4 billion euros ($100.3 billion) last year, according to the European Union’s statistics office -- is close to being in balance. Last year, the U.S. posted a $227 billion trade deficit with China.
deficit with China.

Boeing Co. and General Electric Co., two of the biggest U.S. exporters, say the U.S. needs to do a better job promoting exports if it wants to follow Germany’s example. President Barack Obama wants to double outbound shipments within five years; that will only be possible if the U.S. starts teaching smaller companies the basics of trading with countries such as China, says David Wang, president of Boeing China.

“Many U.S. companies are not driven to export,” Wang said in an interview in Shanghai. “Small and medium companies don’t have the resources to come out here and find their niche.”

Chicago-based Boeing, the largest U.S. maker of commercial jets, is the biggest U.S. exporter. Last year the company reported sales of $4.9 billion in China, more than double the 2008 level, as global sales rose 12 percent.

Germany ‘the Model’

China sales by Fairfield, Connecticut-based GE rose 16 percent last year to $6 billion, compared with a worldwide decline of 14 percent.

“Germany is the model,” GE Chief Executive Officer Jeffrey Immelttold a conference of the U.S. Export-Import Bank in March.

Obama should emulate Germany and Japan and personally lead a trade mission to China, he said. They “have more juice than we do” in boosting exports, Immelt told the Washington conference.

Koehler toured the Shanghai Expo yesterday and hosted German Day there. Earlier his delegation met with Premier Wen Jiabao and Vice Premier Wang Qishan.

Germany, which has an economy less than one-fourth as large as the U.S., exported two-thirds as much as the U.S. to China last year, according to government and International Monetary Fund data.

Paying Attention

Germany has drawn the attention of American businesses. The American Chamber of Commerce in Shanghai is preparing a report on what the German government does to spur exports, and how the U.S. can emulate that, spokesman David Basmajian said.

Germany has “the best-in-class standard for export promotion,” Chris Murck, head of the Beijing-based American Chamber of Commerce in China, said in an interview. “There is a tremendous need for export training in the U.S.” that should come from the government, he said.

The Beijing-based EU Chamber of Commerce in China, which counts Ludwigshafen-based BASF, Munich-based Siemens and Stuttgart-based Daimler as members, says the reason for Germany’s success is simple. It makes what China wants.

Germany “just happens to have the right chemicals and machinery, plus car components that China has to import and it is hard to substitute from elsewhere,” said Martin Reidy, the group’s head of marketing.

According to Chinese customs figures, Germany had a $3.1 billion trade surplus with China in the first four months of this year while the U.S. had a $42.7 billion trade deficit. EU figures show a small deficit. In 2009 Germany had a 9.5 billion euro deficit with China on total trade of 82.4 billion euros.

Ahead in Energy

U.S. businesses say the close cooperation between German business and government on trade promotion helps smaller firms find buyers in China.

The German government “has a larger and even direct role in helping exporters,” said Jeremie Waterman, who oversees the U.S. Chamber of Commerce’s China section in Washington.

Boosting U.S. exports to China will be on the agenda at the China-U.S. Strategic and Economic Dialogue in Beijing next week, and it’s the cornerstone of Locke’s trade mission to China.

“The Germans have incredible technology,” Locke said in an interview in Shanghai. He is trying to promote exports of U.S. clean-energy technology in China on the trade mission with companies such as GE and First Solar Inc. The Germans are ahead in that area, Locke said.

“They have been in that arena much longer,” he said.

It’s a thought echoed by Albrecht von der Hayden, Germany’s top diplomat in Shanghai.

“We have been engaging for a long time,” Von der Hayden said in an interview. “China and Germany, they complement each other.”

--Mark Drajem, Michael Forsythe, Stephanie Wong. Editors: Joe Winski, Larry Liebert

To contact Bloomberg News staff on this story: Mark Drajem in Shanghai at +1-646-267-1569 or mdrajem@bloomberg.net; Michael Forsythe in Beijing at +86-10-6649-7580 or mforsythe@bloomberg.net
Last Updated: May 19, 2010 19:43 EDT
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[debitofilo]

una serie di vaccate

[attilio73]

ih ih ih

[0rigami]

nn è detto: la tua immagine si riferisce al 2009, mentre loro parlavano dei primi 4 mesi di quest'anno

[debitofilo]

i conti si fanno a fine anno

anche se fosse è import di auto di qualità audi vw ecc..

è il contentino che danno ai tedeschi e loro chiudono un occhio qua e la

http://www.libero-news.it/news/41776..._in_China.html

[Gekko89]

Originalmente inviato da debitofilo

i conti si fanno a fine anno

anche se fosse è import di auto di qualità audi vw ecc..

è il contentino che danno ai tedeschi e loro chiudono un occhio qua e la

http://www.libero-news.it/news/41776..._in_China.html

questo è un bel colpo...brutto per noi....fino a quando i lavoratori là faranno giornate di 10000 ore (di straordinario) con paghe ridicole...però chi glielo va a dire che così non va bene??

[pmap]

Originalmente inviato da debitofilo

i conti si fanno a fine anno

anche se fosse è import di auto di qualità audi vw ecc..

è il contentino che danno ai tedeschi e loro chiudono un occhio qua e la

http://www.libero-news.it/news/41776..._in_China.html

In Inghilterra circa un anno fa facevano le manifestazioni contro gli operai italiani e portoghesi perche' secondo gli inglesi gli rubavano il lavoro e venivano pagati di meno. Chissa se succedera' qualcosa di simile in questo caso.

[Boba Fett]

Originalmente inviato da Gekko89

questo è un bel colpo...brutto per noi....fino a quando i lavoratori là faranno giornate di 10000 ore (di straordinario) con paghe ridicole...però chi glielo va a dire che così non va bene??

Perché non provi te?
Vediamo se ti rispondono con una pernacchia.

[debitofilo]

Originalmente inviato da Gekko89

questo è un bel colpo...brutto per noi....fino a quando i lavoratori là faranno giornate di 10000 ore (di straordinario) con paghe ridicole...però chi glielo va a dire che così non va bene??

mi sembra che i lavoratori italiani pagassero le tasse in Gb

sinceramente non ne sono molto sicuro

questi cinesi pagheranno le tasse sul reddito in Polonia o in Cina?

tra l' altro parliamo della Polonia dove i salari non sono altissimi....

beh certo gli italiani sono stati pagati meno degli inglesi..ma qui mi sembra di capire che i cinesi chiudono in toto gli appalti alle aziende europee quindi non c' è neanche da farsi troppe domande

[thegryfus]

La Germania ha un export fortissimo perchè ha distrutto, grazie all'euro, la concorrenza europea, che prima si difendeva con le valute svalutate (svalutate, sarebbe meglio dire col giusto valore per le loro economie).