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eh si, sono Paesi 'civili' loro..
ne avevo già accennato. Le 'mie' fonti (FT..)
..ne avevano già parlato.Ma oggi chi scrive è il primo ministro islandese, mica bau bau micio micio. Ah i Paesi 'civili' sono UK e Olanda, i quali stanno prendendo per il collo gli islandesi nel tentativo di recuperare i fondi dei loro concittadini depositati presso banche private islandesi. Ora costringere gli islandesi a restituire i fondi 'maneggiati' da una banca privata ![]() ![]() Mi immagino se un simile comportamento lo avesse il governo italiano ... . Icelanders are angry but will make sacrifices By Jóhanna Sigurðardóttir Published: August 13 2009 18:53 | Last updated: August 13 2009 18:53 Few governments of developed market economies are grappling with as many simultaneous challenges as Iceland. In its efforts to conclude negotiations over compensation for foreign savers in failed banks, Iceland has been accused of a tendency to imagine a British or Dutch conspiracy behind any bad news. Iceland has no such tendency. It is battling the effects of severe banking and currency crises and a recession that is affecting our part of the world as much as any other. My government, which took over in February and gained a majority in general elections in May, has to deal with the aftermath of the fall of nearly all of Iceland’s privatised banking sector. We plan a 30 per cent contraction in government finances over the next three years, with extensive cuts to infrastructure spending and wages – a heavy burden for our population of 300,000. We have, in co-operation with the International Monetary Fund, formulated an economic strategy that is being fully adhered to. Indeed, we have already reached agreements on a recapitalisation of the banking sector, a stability pact with social partners and a strategy for lifting current account restrictions. In that vein, the authorities have sought an agreement with the foreign creditors of the failed banks with the aim of them taking control of two of the reborn banks. We have also finalised loan agreements with several countries as part of the IMF programme and Iceland’s parliament has authorised it to seek membership of the European Union. Icelanders, who do not feel responsible for the global banking crisis, are willing to make sacrifices to secure normal relations and trade with the world. But they are angry at having to take on the burden of compensation for the Icesave savings accounts of Landsbanki – a failed, privately owned, commercial bank, which attracted hundreds of thousands of UK and Dutch savers with high interest rates. The amount to be shouldered by Iceland is huge – about 50 per cent of our gross domestic product. Assets against this debt will substantially lower the net amount, but there is much uncertainty about the valuations and forecasts underpinning such calculations. Last October, when Iceland was in deep crisis, UK authorities froze the assets of Landsbanki, and placed the bank (and for a while Iceland’s government) alongside terrorist organisations on the official UK Treasury list of entities subject to asset freezing. Kaupthing Bank, which had just been granted a government loan amounting to 5 per cent of GDP, then collapsed after its subsidiary in London was seized by the Financial Services Authority. Despite a critical report in April by the House of Commons Treasury Select Committee, no satisfactory explanations have been given for the UK’s actions. The EU deposit insurance directive that places this burden upon us is seen by some as aimed at the failure of individual banks rather than a systemic collapse, as was the case in Iceland. A strong argument has been made for Iceland being the coincidental victim of defects in this directive, which have been ignored. Icelanders are striving to fulfil their obligations but cannot, and should not, ignore the lessons to be learnt from this crisis regarding potential flaws in banking regulation and deposit insurance schemes affecting the EU and European Economic Area. The FT has reported how the Dutch opposed the IMF lending to Iceland in order to enforce their demands on Icesave, claiming the UK and Germany as allies. The perception is that Treasury officials in the UK and the Netherlands used their bargaining power against a much weaker party when the Icesave deal, now being debated in the Icelandic parliament, was struck. This has made it difficult for Iceland’s government to convince the parliament and Icelanders that an agreement on Icesave accounts with the UK and the Netherlands is un-avoidable. Parliament is looking into ways to attach conditions to the state guarantee to ensure the economic survival and sovereignty of Iceland. Here we need to stress the mutual interest of all three nations in Iceland’s capacity to fulfil its debt obligation. Iceland will not be deterred from resolving issues that stand in the way of economic reconstruction at home and confidence-building abroad. It is to be hoped that the people of large countries such as the UK and the Netherlands are aware of the lasting impact their governments can have on small countries such as ours at a time of great distress. The writer is prime minister of Iceland |
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Non vogliono estendere allo stato islandese i debiti verso i depositanti esteri ? Ok, allora facciano una procedura fallimentare pulita dei tre istituti, cioe' si provveda a liquidare i loro patrimoni e con il ricavato si faccia il riparto tra tutti i depositanti , senza distinzioni tra Islandesi e quei gonzi di Inglesi e Olandesi che si erano fidati di programmi come Icesave et similia. Altrimenti se vogliono garantire al 100% i depositi domestici si accollino anche il debito verso i depositanti esteri e la piantino di lamentarsi che con i soldi ladrati dalle loro banche l'intera isola ci ha pasteggiato a caviale e champagne per almeno un ventennio
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Quindi il cittadino islandese si trovera' ad essere gravato del servizio di un debito pubblico aggiuntivo (ma aveva in precedenza goduto del privilegio di non vedere i suoi depositi bancari coinvolti nella liquidazione delle banche), pari alla differenza tra il debito accollato per rimborsare i depositanti esteri e gli asset che Inghilterra e Olanda avevano trattenuto a garanzia invocando le leggi anti-terrorismo. |
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Definirli ladri è riduttivo... |
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alla fine hanno prevalso 'i cattivi'.
La cifra non è colossale (in rapporto alla popolazione) E' DI PIU' 6 MILIARDI DI DOLLARI PER 300.000 ABITANTI come dice l'art. 20.000 dollari a testa ![]() ![]() Tranquilli, se i creditori fossimo stati noi col cavolo che ce li avrebbero resi.... . Iceland to Reimburse U.K., the Netherlands . Iceland's parliament agreed to reimburse the United Kingdom and the Netherlands almost $6 billion used to compensate British and Dutch depositors who lost money in a failed Icelandic Internet bank. ." The deal will saddle the island nation of 300,000 with a heavy debt -- about half a year's economic output, or nearly $20,000 per Icelander -- but it averts a diplomatic crisis that could have derailed Iceland's aspirations to join the European Union and delayed international funding it sorely needs in the wake of a catastrophic financial-system collapse last fall. |
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